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Quote from: madamenoir on April 14, 2011, 08:51:41 PMFrom what I've seen through observation, WM are with dark-skinned BW because that is what they are attracted to. I don't see many WM with light-skinned BW-- although there are some. I just think that if a Wm is attracted to a BW, whther she is light or dark-skinned should be irrelevant.Uh oh... Who's this beautiful Woman over here ??<--------------------------------
From what I've seen through observation, WM are with dark-skinned BW because that is what they are attracted to. I don't see many WM with light-skinned BW-- although there are some. I just think that if a Wm is attracted to a BW, whther she is light or dark-skinned should be irrelevant.
Quote from: Chocolatesmoothie on April 14, 2011, 09:04:32 PMWhy White Men Like Dark Skinned Black Womenmost black people are brown skinned, you're either light brown, medium brown or dark brown and it depends...some people are gonna say ur light, others are gonna say ur dark especially if ur in the middle, but the main issue is clearly the more closely you resemble a white or non-black woman the more privilege you get , that's the main issue...I dont know if you have noticed this chocolate but I have. Have you noticed that if a black woman is dark but really attractive, somehow people will call her "light skin"? Like they associate light with being pretty so they subconciously see her as light skin. Maybe im the only one who notices that since im a loon with my observations. I saw an interview from that rnb singer who sang the song bday sex (cant think of his name) and they asked him his type of girl and he said light skin long hair and named tatyana ali as an example. Now obviously she is dark or at least close to dark, not light by any stretch of the imagination. Especially if a girl has so called "good hair" and is pretty but dark, she is referred to as light skin.
Why White Men Like Dark Skinned Black Womenmost black people are brown skinned, you're either light brown, medium brown or dark brown and it depends...some people are gonna say ur light, others are gonna say ur dark especially if ur in the middle, but the main issue is clearly the more closely you resemble a white or non-black woman the more privilege you get , that's the main issue...
Quote from: vdbass on April 05, 2011, 03:22:06 PM[quote author=Chocolatesmoothie I honestly think that most white men who prefer black women go for dark skinned black women. The only white men that I can think of who go for light skinned one are robin thick and gabriel and gabriel is racist and robin thick just sees paula as being african american. All the other white men who are famous and with black women seem to be dark skinned black women...The reason I believe this is because light skinned women are probably seen as nothing special to white men... don't seem to be as colorstruck as some black men are. I think you gotta give dark skinned black women more credit...because the truth is alot of men find dark skin attractive, they just won't openly say it. light skinned women are everywhere...but dark skin is exotic, beautiful and ages well. people are just too scared to admit it. I mean dark skin is gorgeous...let's be honest...and deep inside everyone knows it...the way it shimmers...how delicate and beautiful it ages...but dark skin is just so beautiful to me...and don't think that men don't see thatTo letters in red: Bingo!I am not white, but I think I can speak to this because my SHNUGGUMS of 30 years is dark.When I see a pretty light skinned woman, I notice cuz she's pretty. The "light" factor to me is no big whoop!But when an attractive dark skinned woman is around, I notice faster. That's just my preference. I think most nonBM aren't held sway by the skin tone cast system in this country that has infected Black America.Many non-Black men however, are too scared to admit that they indeed love darker women cuzza societal peer pressure and subsequent embarrassment.It takes a person with "if you don't approve of me, screw you" mentality to stand in the face of that attitude.Hence "show biz people" or artistic types (who many have such attitude) are usually the ones with the B*LLS to admit it.Face it. Most women like muscular men. Is that shameful or something to be embarrassed over? No!So nonB/M. If you like darker skinned women, be a man and tell whomever to piss-off! Men can be such pusses sometimes!
[quote author=Chocolatesmoothie I honestly think that most white men who prefer black women go for dark skinned black women. The only white men that I can think of who go for light skinned one are robin thick and gabriel and gabriel is racist and robin thick just sees paula as being african american. All the other white men who are famous and with black women seem to be dark skinned black women...The reason I believe this is because light skinned women are probably seen as nothing special to white men... don't seem to be as colorstruck as some black men are. I think you gotta give dark skinned black women more credit...because the truth is alot of men find dark skin attractive, they just won't openly say it. light skinned women are everywhere...but dark skin is exotic, beautiful and ages well. people are just too scared to admit it. I mean dark skin is gorgeous...let's be honest...and deep inside everyone knows it...the way it shimmers...how delicate and beautiful it ages...but dark skin is just so beautiful to me...and don't think that men don't see that
As for the biracial girls. I dont know why people keep saying white men dont like them. Im making a distinction between biracial and just regular light skin black girls with two black parents because the light ones with 2 black parents usually prefer black men. The biracial girls at least the ones where im at prefer white. So some white guys like them and are dating them. There has been a change with biracials in the last few years. They use to cling to their black side and date black or at least the girls did but now im seeing the younger ones date white guys. Black guys may love them but its not always mututal. And once again the white guys who like them do not always prefer white women. To me most biracials and light skin black women look nothing like Megan Fox, or Jennifer Aniston. They are obviously ethnic looking still to the white eye. I think white guys who like exotic women period(exotic meaning anything darkerthan a white person) may like them but not always ones that like white women. Actually most who prefer white women dont go for biracials. Theres quite a difference between Jen Aniston and Alicia Keys.If more light skin aka the Beyonce's openly express their interest towards white men as much as the dark skin ones do, I guarantee there will be more dating them. Ive already started seeing more of that not to say I see alot of bw with wm but from the ones I do, it use to be ONLY dark or african girls and recently ive seen all shades of brown. Light skin girls never had to consider white men because black men are constantly after them but now I think even light skin black girls arent light enough for todays black man so that may be one reason more light skin girls are starting to think about white men. I use to be on Interracial dating central and I would click to view the most popular members and most of the time it was some biracial girl and that is a site for people who want to date Interracially. So I dont care how many may say on the internet white men prefer dark black women, thats a stereotype I have not always found to be true. I think black women sometimes use white men who IR as a self esteem booster and dont always see the reality of it. heres a link to a topic where a white guy who says he's into black women but goes crazy for the light skin ones asks are there any light skin girls that like white men? And on page 5 a white guy says he finds all shades of bw attractive but the darkest ones goes out of their way to get his attention so that maybe one reason you see more dark bw with wm. He also stated that to get the light skin ones you have to be cute in addition to being white implying that all it takes is to be white to get the darker ones. Dont know if I agree with that last bit but just using him as an example of why the wm prefer dark bw is a stereotype and theres more to it why the non famous ones that date black end up with the darker ones. Its also a stereotype that only dark black men date white women like someone stated. I have seen every shade of black men with a white woman. http://www.topix.com/forum/afam/TKVDPLOCGULIP73VO
Hi guys I found this discussion and its rather interesting and thought that Id get in on this topic. I know that alot of bw would like to believe that wm who are into bw prefer the darker ones and just from my being a very observant person, I have seen thats true for some but not always the case and there are other reasons sometimes why there are more dark bw with wm than lighter ones. I dated a white guy who wasnt into white women at all yet I noticed that most of the black women that he noticed first just on tv or on the street were almost always lighter than I am. I am medium brown (think Meagan Goods color) and I didnt take offense to that because I knew he thought I was beautiful and he did notice and look at brown and dark skin black women but just the ones he would notice first were always light skin yet the black woman he dated before me was dark. People date whats the best thats available to them at the time. Not to say that they will date anyone. They still want you to be attractive but just cause their dating youdoesnt mean you are what they have set in their mind as their ideal type. Sometimes men tell you what they know you want to hear. White men who date black women know all about black women being hurt over black men being color struck so sometimes they say how much they love dark black women because that is what alot of black women want to hear and most bw interested in wm are the darker ones yet when you ask some of these men their celeb crushes guess who it is? It isnt a really dark girl. Its Rihanna, Tyra Banks, Beyonce etc. Although, Lets put the whole light skin/dark skin stuff into perspective though. Everyone has a different chart of whats light, medium, or dark. We as black people through no fault of our own are color nazis so we notice every distinction of brown. Alot of what we call light skin is still considered dark to most of the world. Even Beyonce who is light to us, the media feels the need to lighten her skin on magazine covers and thin her nose out. Her natural color without any lighting to me looks like a honey color which is about the same color as many Filipinos who are considered DARK to most of the world. I doubt the white men dating filipinos think they are dating a "light skin girl". The only white people I know that go by all our categories are ones that grew up around black people. Obviously they know the difference between extremely light and extremely dark but all those different shades of brown, I dont believe most do.I prefer white men that dontseparate us into categories or think too deeply about what shade of brown a black woman is. When I date a white guy I dont want to hear who's too black or who's not black enough. The white guys ive dated always called me a dark skin black woman but to black people im medium or caramel brown.So some white men may say they prefer dark black women but we dont know what color that even is. For some that means alek wek and for some that could mean anyone with some brown to their skin and darker. Most light skin black women (that arent biracial that is) that I know prefer dark skin black men. Those are the ones I hear say they love chocolate men and when I was coming up the few black women that I heard say they liked white guys were always dark and didnt get alot of play from black guys. Some of these women really wanted mixed kids as well. So even if it hurts to admit it for some, I do think rejection from your own race and color complexes plays a part in IR dating. Not for everyone but it is for some for the man and woman.I, like someone already stated, prefer darker white men but does that mean that I must not like "real" white men cause I dont go for the blonds and pale skin? IMO they are all white. Even though I prefer the more italian look, the white guys ive dated were pale although attractive. I didnt date them cause they were my ideal. I dated them because they were attractive and those were the particular white men who asked me out. Thats something people havent mentioned. Alot of these really pale white guys like the red heads for instance are the ones going for black women. If I look at a youtube IR vid, 9/10 the guy is just as pale as she is dark. Greek/italian olive coloring white men from what I can see are sought after by all kinds of women and the paler white guys arent as desirable to white women so maybe they are more open to IR because of that reason and like I said before this doesnt apply to everyone but it does to some. I wont pretend thats not the case. If you saw the white guys ive dated, you'd have no idea that I really prefer a white guy with a full head of dark hair and medium to tanned skin.The white men that I have met online that are really into color and want the black woman to be as dark as possible wont even date a medium brown skin girl like Taraji, Megan Good or myself. They want an Alek Wek cause that is the only thing they see as an authentic black woman and honestly even though Vanessa Williams may not look like the average black girl, neither does Alek Wek at least not in the United States. Arent most of us in between very dark and very light? So does that mean all the black women that arent very dark are somehow less of a black woman than the ones that are? I would have to disagree with anyone who implies that.Also what constitutes a "real black woman"? Is it strictly based on skin color? What about the fact that alot of these white guys are with rail thin black women? Im not putting them down because im kinda slim myself but we all know thats not the traditional black womans body type. What about the fact that alot of these high fashion dark models that some white men tend to like dont even have traditonal negroid features? Yes black features are diverse but what do people think of when they think of black features? West African right? So what makes someone look more "black"? Is it skin color or features? Some of these dark black women arent much different than white women except the skin color so if a white guy goes for a dark black woman with a white womans figure and facial features over a Beyonce who's shaped like the average black woman, does it really mean he likes so called "real" black women more?
Quote from: BT on March 30, 2011, 12:31:46 AM[quote author=mjacjs2 I think it`s a mistake all wite men into a one size fits all package as for me I go for overall package=====================================================================Yes, I agree with this also. I "go for" the personality, which inturn, connects to the heart. Hmmmmmmmmmmmm, I forgot the skin color in this responce. I guess it doesn't apply. so it sounds like to me that you two have no racial preference when it comes to women, since you go for the heart and overall package...which is a good thing. is that true...you have no racial preference when it comes to women?
[quote author=mjacjs2 I think it`s a mistake all wite men into a one size fits all package as for me I go for overall package=====================================================================Yes, I agree with this also. I "go for" the personality, which inturn, connects to the heart. Hmmmmmmmmmmmm, I forgot the skin color in this responce. I guess it doesn't apply.
...not that it matters, but I didn't get this from an article. It was a brief 2 sentences in a message board post years ago.
Quote from: Chocolatesmoothie on March 30, 2011, 08:48:43 PMI'm not saying that all white men are colorblind when it comes to dating a black woman and I'm not denying that there is obviously racism & colorism perpetuated by the media and many white men buy into that. I am just saying that there ARE men of all races who do see black-black women, dark skinned and brown skinned, as desirable and beautiful. We all know all the negatives, but there are men who look beyond the stereotypes and see dark skinned, black-black women as beautiful. Whenever I personally see a white man with a black woman ( rare that it is) 9/10 times she is either brown skinned or dark chocolate. there was a guy who ran for mayor in my city and he was married to a dark-skinned black-black woman. I'm not denying that there is racism/colorism from white men in general, but of the ones who like black women, real black women, I do see a good number with dark/black-black women.My personal observations have been similar. Although the number of BW/WM couples I see are relatively few, most of the time, the woman is medium to dark-skinned. I am talking about ordinary, non-celebrity couples only.
I'm not saying that all white men are colorblind when it comes to dating a black woman and I'm not denying that there is obviously racism & colorism perpetuated by the media and many white men buy into that. I am just saying that there ARE men of all races who do see black-black women, dark skinned and brown skinned, as desirable and beautiful. We all know all the negatives, but there are men who look beyond the stereotypes and see dark skinned, black-black women as beautiful. Whenever I personally see a white man with a black woman ( rare that it is) 9/10 times she is either brown skinned or dark chocolate. there was a guy who ran for mayor in my city and he was married to a dark-skinned black-black woman. I'm not denying that there is racism/colorism from white men in general, but of the ones who like black women, real black women, I do see a good number with dark/black-black women.
I love you Dawn, ur awesome! i'm not disagreeing with you, just giving another perspective.
Quote from: Chocolatesmoothie on March 30, 2011, 07:26:20 PMprince maximillian and princess angela brownand...what about them? i'm assuming you are putting her into the dark skin category, but it still doesn't take away that the rich and/or famous white men who do marry black women, marry light and/or biracial just as much.again, they are less color struck than black men in general. but let's get real the white men control the media and they are the ones who put biracial women up on a pedestal as the idea beauty for black women...let's not forget that. they are also the same ones who have said that for modeling black women need to have what they call "european features" in order for her to be marketable.
prince maximillian and princess angela brown
well, i can see with my own eyes, that on the rare occasions rich and/or famous white men who date/marry black women in THIS COUNTRY, marry biracial and/or light skin black women just as much. there does not seem to be a preference for dark skin women over light skin women. you guys can be in denial as much as you want. i speak the truth not with high emotions or not with what i would prefer to happen.
I'm a white man and my black partners have been dark skinned black woman. I think it's a case of opposites attract. If you're someone who finds black women attractive then you want a dark skinned black woman not a woman who looks bi-racial or mixed. In the same way that a black man wants a lighter skinned woman or a white woman. I would never compete with a black man for a lighter skinned woman. However to say that lighter skinned women are taken off the market because black men have a monopoly on them is a sweeping statement and is almost like saying black men have the first choice because they are more attractive than white men. That's a pretty controversial statement!!
Why White Men Like Dark Skinned Black Women - yes, i think there's some truth to that. the reason why i agree with that is because i have noticed that rich and famous white men are mostly with biracial or light skin black women, and the regular everyday white men are with darker skin black women. so my point is, the rich and famous white men have an easier time getting ANY woman of their choice than the every day white man. so if they, the rich and famous white men end up with biracial and light skin black women, that means they chose to be with her...they didn't have to be with dark. it's the same with biracial men...there was a time when they loved dark skin women (because they didn't have much choice)...but now...PA LEESE, they love biracial and non black women more...especially the famous ones...they are worse than the black-black famous men when it comes to running away from black-black women.
Why White Men Like Dark Skinned Black WomenOnce I heard a theory about why white men tend to date darker skinned black women. This is not necessarily my opinion, just something I read somewhere.Someone said that white men go for darker black women because the biracial to lighter skinned ones are already in demand and taken off the market by black men. The white man wants a black woman but he thinks he doesn't have a chance with the lighter ones because she is either already taken, or she gets plenty of attention from black men and probably doesn't feel the "need" to date out. So he goes for the darker woman who likely isn't taken and who likely isn't inundated with love from the brothas (and therefore perhaps more willing to give a white guy a chance). Again, this is just something I read once. Is there any truth in that?
from what I've observed, I've seen more weathy WM/everyday WM with dark skinned BW than with light skinned BW (please see pics below). From my first hand life observations, it seems as if more WM prefer dark skinned BW to light skinned WW because if they want a lightskinned women, they can go for a WW instead of a lightskinned BW. Also, I've heard that WM view ALL BW as "dark skinned" compared to any White person and they don't necessarily view "dark skin" as a negative factor in dating BW like MANY ignorant, self hating, RACIST ANTI-BW BM do.
I think it`s a mistake all wite men into a one size fits all package as for me I go for overall package
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