Are Black Women Attracted to White Men?

[FFU]

Maybe they just "appear" like small raisins! You know what they say. Even a 747 looks small if its landing in the Grand Canyon! 

Hey Brown sugahlover, maybe Beyonce was referring to me!  If so, thanks for fielding the hit!

[Beyonce]

Yeah, pretty much! Everybody I know that has a problem with IR relationships, whether they are black, white or whatever have come to that conclusion by way of racism! It's okay to have a preference for mating with someone of your own race! That's your comfort zone, and I'm fine with that, but it's not okay to criticize someone else for their choice to marry someone of a different ethnic persuasion! THAT is their choice and they are entitled to it!

a blk person that solely has a preference for white mates has the issue. theres no problem with dating IR, the problem is when u put a certain race on a pedestal.

why couldnt that anon say it was refreshing to see a blk woman in a happy relationship as opposed to its refreshing to see a bw with a white dude?

she defintely was looking for validation.


lastly, u dont know wat the hell racism is

[Brown sugahlover]

Yeah, pretty much! Everybody I know that has a problem with IR relationships, whether they are black, white or whatever have come to that conclusion by way of racism! It's okay to have a preference for mating with someone of your own race! That's your comfort zone, and I'm fine with that, but it's not okay to criticize someone else for their choice to marry someone of a different ethnic persuasion! THAT is their choice and they are entitled to it!

[Beyonce]

anonymous guest:

I totally agree with Blacksugahlover's observation.  I've definitely noticed that a lot more younger American WM have a LOT less hangups about serioulsy dating/marrying BW.
It's really encouraging to see this positive change in BW/WM IRR's in American.

its sad that some blk women need validation from white men. " yay!! white guys like us, finally"...pitiful


It's not "validation" its more like a long overdue  "appreciation"
 
I thought this sight was all about appreciating the beauty of black women and getting others to get beyond their racial hangups and see it also! It seemed like a very positive dialogue formulating, and then we get a big old dose of Beyonce vitriol!  It's awfully interesting that every single time an IR topic comes up, she has to put her negative two cents in!  There has got to be some underlying reason why she hates IR relationships. If it's not racism, then why does she care if 2 people have found love outside of their racial comfort zone? No one is forcing her to date a white guy!

Bey, if IR topics bother you so much why don't you just stay away from them? There are a lot more topics at this sight that you could contribute to without getting you all worked up and ruining our positive discussion!

lol, that was racist?

[Brown sugahlover]

anonymous guest:

I totally agree with Blacksugahlover's observation.  I've definitely noticed that a lot more younger American WM have a LOT less hangups about serioulsy dating/marrying BW.
It's really encouraging to see this positive change in BW/WM IRR's in American.

its sad that some blk women need validation from white men. " yay!! white guys like us, finally"...pitiful


It's not "validation" its more like a long overdue  "appreciation"
 
I thought this sight was all about appreciating the beauty of black women and getting others to get beyond their racial hangups and see it also! It seemed like a very positive dialogue formulating, and then we get a big old dose of Beyonce vitriol!  It's awfully interesting that every single time an IR topic comes up, she has to put her negative two cents in!  There has got to be some underlying reason why she hates IR relationships. If it's not racism, then why does she care if 2 people have found love outside of their racial comfort zone? No one is forcing her to date a white guy!

Bey, if IR topics bother you so much why don't you just stay away from them? There are a lot more topics at this sight that you could contribute to without getting you all worked up and ruining our positive discussion!   

[Chocolatesmoothie]

yeah but u didn't have to make the comments so personal attack the argument, not the person all you had to do was respond back "i'm not racist i just think x,y,z" there was no need to carry it that far it's not the first time we've had personal , rude comments from you directed at other posters. learn to debate the person without doing below the belt, personal attacks on people.

[Beyonce]

beyonce i understand you were upset that brownsugarlover called you a racist, i don't believe ur a racist you just like black men and you're protective of them for whatever reason, but brownsugah is a genuinely nice guy, you two can respect each other even if you don't see eye to eye

not protective of blk men.

i just call out hypocrisy...i have to be fair

brownsugah can d*e

[Chocolatesmoothie]

beyonce i understand you were upset that brownsugarlover called you a racist, i don't believe ur a racist you just like black men and you're protective of them for whatever reason, but brownsugah is a genuinely nice guy, you two can respect each other even if you don't see eye to eye

[Beyonce]

he guys let's keep it civil here...

its hard to keep it civil with an old white man who doesnt have a clue about racial issues involving blks

[Chocolatesmoothie]

he guys let's keep it civil here...

[Beyonce]

Hey Bey!


Maybe they just "appear" like small raisins! You know what they say. Even a 747 looks small if its landing in the Grand Canyon! 

if it makes u feel better, ur p*nis is still tiny

bye

[Brown sugahlover]

Hey Bey!


Maybe they just "appear" like small raisins! You know what they say. Even a 747 looks small if its landing in the Grand Canyon! 

[Beyonce]

I think that eliminating anybody as a prospect for love just because of race is racist itself! I know black guys that will proclaim flat out that they will only date w/w and totally exclude black women! They come up with some BS reason for their prejudice! I've had relationships with a myriad of different ethnic women, (black, white, hispanic and asian) and I've found something beautiful in all of them!

Keeping an open mind is not worship, on the contrary, it is a sign of intelligence! As I have stated numerously in past contributions, there are some racists on here (Hi Bey!) that see anytopic dealing with IR dating as white man worship! Just out of curiousity, when the same people see a BM/WW couple do they consider that black man worship? People magazine recently named Beyonce' Knowles as the most beautiful woman in the world! It's foolish to think that there aren't any white men that find black women attractive!

Chocolate my dear? Welcome to flirting 101.

1. A man is not going to approach a woman and make small talk unless he's interested in her! We just won't put ourselves out there unless we think it's worth our while!
2. If we compliment you (in any way) we are flirting! Listen for phrases such as "God, you smell nice!" or "Your hair looks good" or "You have the most beautiful eyes I've ever seen!" Guys will never tell you any of this stuff unless we are interested and want to make a good impression on you! If no guy has ever approached you and said any thing similar to that, you are not meeting the right type of guys! Sweetie, I have flirted with you numerous times online but I don't think you ever took it seriously!
3. Older guys like to flirt with young pretty girls! We don't think anything is neccessarily going to come of it, but we want you to know (and reassure ourselves) we still have game!

4.  Flirting should always be respectfull, telling a girl she has a nice a*s or a great set of melons is "NOT" flirting! It's vulgar and will not get you anywhere with any woman that has a modicum of class!

well of course ur old azz only sees and reads what u want to see and read.


u always shy a way from topics dealing with white privilege and racism.


what sane blk woman would want to date an old azz white dude who got ballz that look and are the same size as raisins?

answer that brown sugahlover

[Brown sugahlover]

I think that eliminating anybody as a prospect for love just because of race is racist itself! I know black guys that will proclaim flat out that they will only date w/w and totally exclude black women! They come up with some BS reason for their prejudice! I've had relationships with a myriad of different ethnic women, (black, white, hispanic and asian) and I've found something beautiful in all of them!

Keeping an open mind is not worship, on the contrary, it is a sign of intelligence! As I have stated numerously in past contributions, there are some racists on here (Hi Bey!) that see anytopic dealing with IR dating as white man worship! Just out of curiousity, when the same people see a BM/WW couple do they consider that black man worship? People magazine recently named Beyonce' Knowles as the most beautiful woman in the world! It's foolish to think that there aren't any white men that find black women attractive!

Chocolate my dear? Welcome to flirting 101.

1. A man is not going to approach a woman and make small talk unless he's interested in her! We just won't put ourselves out there unless we think it's worth our while!
2. If we compliment you (in any way) we are flirting! Listen for phrases such as "God, you smell nice!" or "Your hair looks good" or "You have the most beautiful eyes I've ever seen!" Guys will never tell you any of this stuff unless we are interested and want to make a good impression on you! If no guy has ever approached you and said any thing similar to that, you are not meeting the right type of guys! Sweetie, I have flirted with you numerous times online but I don't think you ever took it seriously!
3. Older guys like to flirt with young pretty girls! We don't think anything is neccessarily going to come of it, but we want you to know (and reassure ourselves) we still have game!

4.  Flirting should always be respectfull, telling a girl she has a nice a*s or a great set of melons is "NOT" flirting! It's vulgar and will not get you anywhere with any woman that has a modicum of class!

[FFU]

Something I hadn't thought of.  Thanks, CS, for the insight.  I'll just keep on smiling.

[Chocolatesmoothie]

you get dirty looks fro black women for smiling or are you getting surprised looks? there is a difference, i know i would probably be caught off guard if a white guy was making a pass at me or smiling at me because it's so out of the ordinary. honestly, i'm not truly sure when a white guy is flirting or not it's hard to tell so maybe you're getting the brush off because the black women are unsure how to react or something

[FFU]

All women of all races, sizes and shapes are beautiful, period, as long as they are of good character.  Having said that, beauty is in the eye of the beholder, which leads us to have our preferences.  However, we shouldn't let our preferences blind us from the first point, as well as, inner beauty.  For true love can come in any shape or size or colour.

I was reminded of this night when last night I watched Cinderella, the musical, starring Brandy (such a stunning young lady) and Paulo Montalban (spelling?)  It was the first time I saw this movie and I bawled like a baby and I'm a 53 year old WM.  The tears, I think, are in part from a breakdown in my own IR marriage after 20 years; my wife is South American mulatta (spelling?).

I was directed to this sight by a youtube video that encouraged white guys to express their opinion about black women.  I've had my preferences over the years - I've had serious relationships (as well as casual dates) with white, East Indian, Oriental women before meeting my wife.  I guess now that it's time to move on, my preference now seems to be black women.  While I see a lot of younger IR couples (all races), I still get a lot of dirty looks when I smile at black women.  I guess my generation is still hanging on to the old barriers - so unfortunate.

Last point: white guys are no different than men of any other race. Most of us can be inconsiderate pigs, although hopefully that too is changing with the younger generations.

Peace to all.

[Chocolatesmoothie]

bringing back to the top

[Chocolatesmoothie]

and at the end of the day actions speak louder than words there may be a small group of black women online who talk about white men, but at the end of the day Black men date out and marry out far more and as many of us have stated on here we don't know any black women offline who exclusively date outside the race, that seems to be done more often by Black men.

so, this nonsense has to stop. nonsense about black women wanting white men to put them on a pedestal.

[joeclyde]

Anyway, I wanted to apologize to JoeClyde for giving the dismissive "whatever" in my initial response to you.  You probably didn't think much of it, but I felt bad about it.   

God forgives.  I don't.

Seriously No Problem. lol

[TruB1ackQueen]

Sorry guys, I hit the wrong button and submitted before I was done. here is my completed repost.

JC states: Is it really that ridiculous?  If we took the temperature of most Black women in America, and asked what are they concerned about.  At the top of the list it would probably be about Black woman's beauty and mainstream media.  True or not.  It seems that Black women are more concerned about being on the covers of Magazines vs.  any other issue in America. 

Black women will not hesitate.  To state that they aren't put on a pedestal.  That black men put non-bw on a pedestal, and that white men put ww on a pedestal.  So if it appears that BW want to be put on a pedestal, and they believe that black men can't or won't do it.  Who is going to do if for them? follow the dots....White men.  So consciously or subconsciously.  There is this believe that "worshiping" or having some adoration for White men.  Will finally give Black women this mythical pedestal.  That some desperately seek.

In regards to the comment about what most BW are concerned about at the top of the list would be bw's beauty and mainstream media. I know that is not true. Quite frankly I was insulted b/c I felt you were basically calling us shallow. I know for a fact that if you asked all the bw on this site alone what our main concern is it would definitely not be beauty and the mainstream media. Expand that to everyday bw and that still would not be at the top of the list. We have more important things, that are much more relevant, pressing and serious. It is a struggle we recognize and participate in when we can b/c it is an issue, but not one of our main ones. Also if wm and bm aren't putting bw on a pedestal who is subconsciously and consciously, white men really? No we are putting ourselves on a pedestal or trying to anyway. Exampoles of that is the loving of ourselves, i.e. hair, skin, health, speaking up. When you say most bw jc you are insulting alot of bw and dumbing us down so please be careful with that. I'll even go so far as to say if bw around the country were to be asked what their top concern is it wouldn't be that. Also, anyone who watches RHOA, or takes it serious is a fool. I don't know any bw who date out, and date bm exclusively. JC from a comment you made a while back it seems you know somethings about fitness and other things i'd be interested in more on that. Andychow had put up info about the stock market, financial success, and even a link to an educational game at one point. I found that info great and played the game often before my home computer crashed and had to be wiped clean. Let's do more topics on these things and positive topics with lots of comments to equal out the negative.

Sidenote: LMS'ers this is what Dawn was talking about when she said only the interracial topics get the most comments. Please lets actively try to do better, together. No more for me on this topic for me.

[TruB1ackQueen]

JC states: Is it really that ridiculous?  If we took the temperature of most Black women in America, and asked what are they concerned about.  At the top of the list it would probably be about Black woman's beauty and mainstream media.  True or not.  It seems that Black women are more concerned about being on the covers of Magazines vs.  any other issue in America. 

Black women will not hesitate.  To state that they aren't put on a pedestal.  That black men put non-bw on a pedestal, and that white men put ww on a pedestal.  So if it appears that BW want to be put on a pedestal, and they believe that black men can't or won't do it.  Who is going to do if for them? follow the dots....White men.  So consciously or subconsciously.  There is this believe that "worshiping" or having some adoration for White men.  Will finally give Black women this mythical pedestal.  That some desperately seek.

In regards to the comment about what most BW

[Vashti Lebron]

and you know what else...I have never in my life met a Black woman who EXCLUSIVELY dates white or non-black men. never in my life have I known a Black woman who does that. the few black women who I do know who've dated white men have done it as an exception and they still dated black men. on the flip side, I know of 3 Black men off of the top of my head who exclusively date outside their race. that should tell you something right there.

do you all know any Black women (offline) who exclusively date outside their race?...

I have never known any black woman who only dates IR.  I've never seen it.  In fact, I've never personally known any black women in my regular daily life (as in coworkers or past friends) who have EVER dated IR or expressed serious interest in doing so--outside of saying something ignorant about the 'pretty' babies they could produce with someone of another race.   

And I agree, CS.  From what I've seen, if a black man dates IR, he tends to go ALL out and just doesn't date black women at all.   If you see him with a white/hispanic woman, more than likely his past 3 and  subsequent girlfriends will be non-black too.   Not saying this is the case for all black men, but I have a family member like this---he says he doesn't discriminate racially, he says he likes all flavors, but he also says that he doesn't fool with black women.

Anyway, I wanted to apologize to JoeClyde for giving the dismissive "whatever" in my initial response to you.  You probably didn't think much of it, but I felt bad about it.   

[Chocolatesmoothie]

and you know what else...I have never in my life met a Black woman who EXCLUSIVELY dates white or non-black men. never in my life have I known a Black woman who does that. the few black women who I do know who've dated white men have done it as an exception and they still dated black men. on the flip side, I know of 3 Black men off of the top of my head who exclusively date outside their race. that should tell you something right there.

do you all know any Black women (offline) who exclusively date outside their race?...

 because I've certainly never met any who have...can't necessarily say the same for Black men

and at the end of the day, who dates out more in the Black community...it's all right there for you to see who (if anyone) is "running after" other races. If any group is "running after" other races, it would have to be black men (if we're going to make the assumption) just based on the fact that they date out more than Black women alone.

but joeclyde has never made topics about black men running after non-black women, he's just fixated and obsessed on Black women "running after" non-bm, even though we don't date out half as much as Black men.

[Beyonce]

anonymous guest:

I totally agree with Blacksugahlover's observation.  I've definitely noticed that a lot more younger American WM have a LOT less hangups about serioulsy dating/marrying BW.
It's really encouraging to see this positive change in BW/WM IRR's in American.

its sad that some blk women need validation from white men. " yay!! white guys like us, finally"...pitiful

[joeclyde]

So because some girls in your High School.  Didn't gush over non-bm.  That's your proof that Black women aren't excited about seeing BW and WM together?  That's not gangsta.

Whatever, Joeclyde.  Those two points don't even go together. 

My assertion that black women aren't into non-black men "like that" isn't SIMPLY based on the girls in my high school.

I'm black, I grew up around black people, black women.  I don't need "proof"--I live it, and I know what I have seen with my own eyes and heard with my ears.   

Just because a black women may like seeing interracial couples (which I personally do, actually....of whatever race),  or gets "excited" by them, as you may put it, doesn't mean that she, herself,  is attracted to a white (or non-black) man in that way.  It doesn't mean that she wants that for herself.    Again, it could just be the people I've been around, but black women aren't eyeing down white men like that, just salivating to be with them.

I acknowledge that some black women do feel like white (or whatever race) is better to date than black and a white man confirms their beauty, but i haven't personally seen much of that--besides hearing that they would get a 'pretty' baby with 'good hair' out of it. 

You can't get a Black woman to say.  That she doesn't find White men attractive.

I have heard lots of black women say that they aren't attracted to white men.   And just because a woman acknowledges that someone is attractive does NOT necessarily mean that she's attracted TO that person in that way or is interested in being with him.   On dating sites, I've noticed that some black women make a point to state something to the effect "Black men Only"

I can't disagree with much you have said.  But to say that IR dating and Black women isn't the "in thing".  That would be lying also.

[Vashti Lebron]

So because some girls in your High School.  Didn't gush over non-bm.  That's your proof that Black women aren't excited about seeing BW and WM together?  That's not gangsta.

Whatever, Joeclyde.  Those two points don't even go together. 

My assertion that black women aren't into non-black men "like that" isn't SIMPLY based on the girls in my high school.

I'm black, I grew up around black people, black women.  I don't need "proof"--I live it, and I know what I have seen with my own eyes and heard with my ears.   

Just because a black women may like seeing interracial couples (which I personally do, actually....of whatever race),  or gets "excited" by them, as you may put it, doesn't mean that she, herself,  is attracted to a white (or non-black) man in that way.  It doesn't mean that she wants that for herself.    Again, it could just be the people I've been around, but black women aren't eyeing down white men like that, just salivating to be with them.

I acknowledge that some black women do feel like white (or whatever race) is better to date than black and a white man confirms their beauty, but i haven't personally seen much of that--besides hearing that they would get a 'pretty' baby with 'good hair' out of it. 

You can't get a Black woman to say.  That she doesn't find White men attractive.

I have heard lots of black women say that they aren't attracted to white men.   And just because a woman acknowledges that someone is attractive does NOT necessarily mean that she's attracted TO that person in that way or is interested in being with him.   On dating sites, I've noticed that some black women make a point to state something to the effect "Black men Only"

[joeclyde]

@joeclyde - if our (black women) main concern in america is about being on the cover of magazines so that white men find us sexually attractive, then your (a man who is supposedly married to a black woman) personal main concern in america is going around the internet making up reasons to attack black women verbally.  you personally refrain from responding to ALL positive posts or on posts that have no relationship to black women dating/marriage relationships.

NOTE:  i specifically said "respond to posts" because whenever i bring something like this up you go and create a so called "positive topic" (so i'm not talking about the few you've created over the years to try to prove that you are not a black woman basher, i'm talking about the positive topics and the non black women relationship topics created by others).  for you to respond to the "positive topics" created by others would make you have to acknowledge that most of your comments to the majority of the topics that you respond to are just b.s. and lies and walking a continuous walk on the borderline of bashing black women.

I'm not a black woman basher.    I have discussed and commented on a couple of positive topics, and by your own admission.  I have created several positive Black woman topics as well.  Which also never seem to get any comments.

But on this topic.  I just spoke about what I have seen.  I don't speak 100% positive on Black men either.  I think 99% of rap music is stupid.  I think Black men that participate in the cuckold scene are gay.  I call the majority of Black women bashers frustrated nerds. 

[joeclyde]

Are Black Women Attracted to White Men?

I would like to call your attention to this post joeclyde and I want you to please read carefully and examine the topic tell us where ANYWHERE you see anything about black women wanting to be on a pedestal and please let me know where you see white men fitting in this fantasy because we've always talked about leveling the playing field. In fact we've said many times that we HATE the idea of a beauty hierarchy, but if we must have one, then Black women need to be given the SAME opportunities within our own ethnic group as other women, a level playing field and respect is all we ask.


I also would like to direct you to this topic where we also discuss leveling the playing field.

Finally, Black women ARE on the bottom of every thing. you can't deny that we're the only group that has people making scientific studies justifying how ugly we supposedly are, the only women who have nightly news series about why we can't get a man.

I'm not talking about you per sea.  I'm just talking about what I see in general.  If you don't feel that way.  Fine.

Yes Black women are attacked in the media.  Daily.  But some of that is a self fulling prophecy.  Say something about Black women.  Get ratings, and sell magazines.  When we or Black women specifically ignore it or do what they did to the Psychology today guy.  Maybe there would be less stories in the future.

[Dawn]

@joeclyde - if our (black women) main concern in america is about being on the cover of magazines so that white men find us sexually attractive, then your (a man who is supposedly married to a black woman) personal main concern in america is going around the internet making up reasons to attack black women verbally.  you personally refrain from responding to ALL positive posts or on posts that have no relationship to black women dating/marriage relationships.

NOTE:  i specifically said "respond to posts" because whenever i bring something like this up you go and create a so called "positive topic" (so i'm not talking about the few you've created over the years to try to prove that you are not a black woman basher, i'm talking about the positive topics and the non black women relationship topics created by others).  for you to respond to the "positive topics" created by others would make you have to acknowledge that most of your comments to the majority of the topics that you respond to are just b.s. and lies and walking a continuous walk on the borderline of bashing black women.

[Chocolatesmoothie]

AND there was a pakistani guy from the UK who came on here talking crazy. remember guys? And he left after only a few days....we're actually kind of HARD on non-bm in my opinion sometimes we do go hard of them and most of them are either inactive or leave, even though when Dawn first opened the site, the first version is was mostly white men posting. That was before chocolatesmoothie was an active poster. I remember reading choppey and some other guy leave the site and one of the white guys said something to the effect of "i'm leaving, going somewhere where i'm more appreciated, good luck being strong black women!" or something to that effect and then they deleted their account and that was back when I was just a lurker and even THEN this site wasn't easy on non-bm.

this is a BLACK WOMEN EMPOWERMENT SITE. this is about US, BLACK WOMEN, not WHITE MEN, NOT ASIAN MEN, NOT BLACK MEN, NOT HISPANIC MEN....BLACK WOMEN. so BLACK WOMEN ON A BLACK WOMEN EMPOWERMENT SITE are gonna talk about what WE WANT and what we feel is best for BLACK WOMEN.

we are not here to cater to other people, we try and respect people, but at the end of the day this is OUR SITE.

[Chocolatesmoothie]

and you know what joeclyde, I see you made a subtle reference to Vashti in your post and it's funny because we all just commented in a post about Black men putting black-black women in their videos and it was a positive post. we all loved it, but you weren't over there commenting, but you just want to comment about Black women (on this site of all places) worshiping white men when we've had more white men leave this site for feeling attacked than probably any other group. I'm thinking of four regular white male posters who have left the site because they felt we came to hard on them, so I don't know if you're speaking generally, but your'e CERTAINLY not speaking about this site because we don't put white men on a pedestal on here.

wm how have left:

dustin, airbleeder, JC505 (u know who i'm talking about), billy,choppey and another white guy left because he thought we came down hard on him too...andy has left and come back multiple times.

so i don' know why you bring you WMW brigade here of all places.

[Chocolatesmoothie]

Are Black Women Attracted to White Men?

I would like to call your attention to this post joeclyde and I want you to please read carefully and examine the topic tell us where ANYWHERE you see anything about black women wanting to be on a pedestal and please let me know where you see white men fitting in this fantasy because we've always talked about leveling the playing field. In fact we've said many times that we HATE the idea of a beauty hierarchy, but if we must have one, then Black women need to be given the SAME opportunities within our own ethnic group as other women, a level playing field and respect is all we ask.


I also would like to direct you to this topic where we also discuss leveling the playing field.

Finally, Black women ARE on the bottom of every thing. you can't deny that we're the only group that has people making scientific studies justifying how ugly we supposedly are, the only women who have nightly news series about why we can't get a man.

[Chocolatesmoothie]

Are Black Women Attracted to White Men?

Black women will not hesitate.  To state that they aren't put on a pedestal.  That black men put non-bw on a pedestal, and that white men put ww on a pedestal.  So if it appears that BW want to be put on a pedestal, and they believe that black men can't or won't do it.  Who is going to do if for them? follow the dots....White men.  So consciously or subconsciously.  There is this believe that "worshiping" or having some adoration for White men.  Will finally give Black women this mythical pedestal.  That some desperately seek.

I see you haven't been truly paying attention or reading our posts on this site or you would know that we have stated at least 20 times that we're trying to level the playing field. I don't understand why that's so hard for you to comprehend. I just made a post recently where i stated that we wanted to leve the playing field. Where are you getting that Black women want to be above other women?

Also there have been far more posts calling on Black men to respect Black women than for white men to put us on a pedestal, why you're bringing this nonsense here is beyond me.

[joeclyde]

Yes, there are Black women who are into white men, but the idea that Black women are out running after or "worshiping" white men is ridiculous to me.

John Mayer Playboy interview

Is it really that ridiculous?  If we took the temperature of most Black women in America, and asked what are they concerned about.  At the top of the list it would probably be about Black woman's beauty and mainstream media.  True or not.  It seems that Black women are more concerned about being on the covers of Magazines vs.  any other issue in America. 

Black women will not hesitate.  To state that they aren't put on a pedestal.  That black men put non-bw on a pedestal, and that white men put ww on a pedestal.  So if it appears that BW want to be put on a pedestal, and they believe that black men can't or won't do it.  Who is going to do if for them? follow the dots....White men.  So consciously or subconsciously.  There is this believe that "worshiping" or having some adoration for White men.  Will finally give Black women this mythical pedestal.  That some desperately seek.

[joeclyde]

I really don't mean to offend- I'm not saying there's anything wrong with a black woman being attracted to a white (or whatever) man. I am all for interracial dating.....I think it's oh so Gangsta!

And I acknowledge that black women are individuals and some may like all or some races, while others prefer to stay within.

But I do hate when people (particularly black men) act like black women (in general) are just chomping at the bit to date out.  From what I've seen, that's far from the truth and it sounds so bizarre to me.  It could just be where I live and what I live around, but I never see a group of black women look back at a non-black man and pull an "Mmmm mmmm!"  When I was in high school, when the black girls sat around gushing about cute boys they had crushes on, I only remember ONE non-black guy's name ever coming up---the non-black guys were non-factors and black girls (including myself) didn't even notice them 'like that'.  And it seems that the feeling was mutual.
 
Of course there are many black women who do like other flavors and are open to IR dating,  but I really believe that in general black women aren't feeling the non-black men in that way.

So because some girls in your High School.  Didn't gush over non-bm.  That's your proof that Black women aren't excited about seeing BW and WM together?  That's not gangsta.

I personally believe in this day and age.  Black women see non-bm as the "in thing".  It is something to be celebrated.  It is the #1 affirmation of a Black woman's beauty (in their eyes).  Is to be found sexually attractive to a non-bm.  If a non-bm can't get a Black girl in 2012.  Then he must be a troll.  That is really the only excuse.  You can't get a Black woman to say.  That she doesn't find White men attractive.

I was watching RHOA briefly last night.  They had the gold digger Marlo with her lastest White man at a party.  Kandi was single and asked Marlo if she had any single friends.  Marlo stated that she doesn't believe Kandi would date a white man.  Kandi was flabbergasted, and said she doesn't have a type.  Really?  KANDI. of all people.   Doesn't want to it to be known.  That she wouldn't give a white man a chance.  It is what it is.

[Chocolatesmoothie]

it annoys me too where are people getting this? Nothing against white men, there are certain things I find attractive about white men, but white men aren't any better than other men, they're just normal men like any other men. I get annoyed too when people act like all Black women are just out there waiting to get with a white man.

That hasn't been my reality. so I get annoyed when people presume that all Black women are just out there waiting to get with any ole white dude and as soon as one pays us a compliment, we'll drop our panties and take anything we can get i'm offended by that. that is the attitude that the interviewer in Playboy espoused in the John Mayer issue. "do black women throw themselves at you?" Just cuz John Mayer sang a few Black songs, Black women are supposed to be running after his azz and waiting to jump on his "white supremacist weenie." Please...

It was the same thing when I was in the mall and these french guys tried to sell me some skin care products. He tried to "buy me," with flattery by presuming that just because I am a Black woman that if he paid me compliments about my blackness and talked about how blue his eyes were I should be so flattered that I would buy up the whole store without a care. Telling me "you like me blue eyes, you ever dated a white boy?" Being all unprofessional and trying to play his white boy privilege card and inveigle me into buying a bunch of stuff I didn't need. Newsflash: Just because you're white does NOT mean every Black woman wants to be with you. Get over yourself.

he asked me " will you come back for my blue eyes or my product?" I said to him, "I'll come back for the product, but your eyes are okay too." I said it because that was really ignorant to make that comment as if white men are inherently better and all Black women are so eager for a wm to pay them attention that they'll even take a phony-azz half-compliment from a SALESMEN whose job it is to make the client feel flattered and good so they'll buy a product. As if we're THAT desperate. That offended me.

But, some white men are attractive, some are nice, but white men are no more inherently better or attractive than any other race of man. they're just men to me period. I don't believe in the White male worship stuff and most of the Black women I know have similar feelings to me.

Yes, there are Black women who are into white men, but the idea that Black women are out running after or "worshiping" white men is ridiculous to me.

John Mayer Playboy interview

[bj]

Re: Are Black Women Attracted to White ?

I don't know how other races perceive Black women's attraction to other races, but i think black women in general aren't attracted to white men like that.   I know some people around here act like most black women are just itching to get with a white man, but I don't think that's the case at all.  In my perception, most black women don't even  white men like that or see themselves easily 'going there' with one.

Vee, baby! You're killing me here! I'm hoping you're wrong! I work with a lot of black women who seem open minded about dating white men (Thank, God!) Anybody thinking of dating or marrying interracially won't find it easy  'going there! ' But, isn't the chance of finding your true love worth it?

I really don't mean to offend- I'm not saying there's anything wrong with a black woman being attracted to a white (or whatever) man.  I am all for interracial dating.....I think it's oh so Gangsta!

And I acknowledge that black women are individuals and some may like all or some races, while others prefer to stay within.

But I do hate when people (particularly black men) act like black women (in general) are just chomping at the bit to date out.   From what I've seen, that's far from the truth and it sounds so bizarre to me.  It could just be where I live and what I live around, but I never see a group of black women look back at a non-black man and pull an "Mmmm mmmm!"  When I was in high school, when the black girls sat around gushing about cute boys they had crushes on, I only remember ONE non-black guy's name ever coming up---the non-black guys were non-factors and black girls (including myself) didn't even notice them 'like that'.  And it seems that the feeling was mutual.
 
Of course there are many black women who do like other flavors and are open to IR dating,  but I really believe that in general black women aren't feeling the non-black men in that way.

[Chocolatesmoothie]

anonymous guest:

I totally agree with Blacksugahlover's observation.  I've definitely noticed that a lot more younger American WM have a LOT less hangups about serioulsy dating/marrying BW.
It's really encouraging to see this positive change in BW/WM IRR's in American.

[Brown sugahlover]

Re: Are Black Women Attracted to White ?

I don't know how other races perceive Black women's attraction to other races, but i think black women in general aren't attracted to white men like that.   I know some people around here act like most black women are just itching to get with a white man, but I don't think that's the case at all.  In my perception, most black women don't even  white men like that or see themselves easily 'going there' with one.

Vee, baby! You're killing me here! I'm hoping you're wrong! I work with a lot of black women who seem open minded about dating white men (Thank, God!) Anybody thinking of dating or marrying interracially won't find it easy  'going there! ' But, isn't the chance of finding your true love worth it?

Some people date interracially out of curiosity or rebelliousness or just have a fetishistic preference! Some, perhaps feel that after a few bad relationships within their own race, that they might be better off looking for romance with someone of a different ethnic background! Sometimes people look past all the cr*p and find that their soulmate doesn't come "color co-ordinated"!  Who knows?

I am seeing a lot more young WM/BW couples out socially lately! The new generation doesn't have as many hangups about race as the generations that preceded them! Sure, there are still some racist bad apples out there but attitudes and misconceptions like theirs are falling by the wayside!

I find beauty (inside and out) in women of every race! I have never had a preference for any specific  type of  woman! I work with more black women and so they are who I tend to interact with! I find many to be sweet, compassionate, thoughtful and beautiful!  Believe me ladies, your beauty is the first thing that we notice but if that's all you bring to the table we won't stick around! We want someone who is compatible, faithful, sweet and understanding, too! Did you ever notice there are a lot of beautiful "single" ladies out there?

 

[Chocolatesmoothie]

anonymous guest:

BW are INDIVIDUALS just like any other HUMAN BEING. 
 
SOME BW are attracted to WM/NON-BM and SOME aren't.  It really annoys/offends me that EVERYONE feels it's their place to make GENERALIZATIONS about every aspect of BW's lives instead of respecting that BW are UNIQUE (like EVERYONE else on the planet).

[Vashti Lebron]

Re: Are Black Women Attracted to White Men?

I don't know how other races perceive Black women's attraction to other races, but i think black women in general aren't attracted to white men like that.   I know some people around here act like most black women are just itching to get with a white man, but I don't think that's the case at all.   In my perception, most black women don't even notice white men like that or see themselves easily 'going there' with one. 

[Chocolatesmoothie]

Are Black Women Attracted to White Men?



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[Chocolatesmoothie]

Are Black Women Attracted to White Men?



There is a lot of hubub about whether or not white men are attracted to Black women, but are Black women (in general) attracted to white men?

It seems like some people presume that all Black women want/prefer white men and it's simply white men who aren't interested. But, is this the case?

I remember when John Mayor made the Playboy comments what most offended me was when the interviewer asked him "did Black women throw themselves at him?" The interviewer asked this after asking John how it felt to have a "hood pass."

Why do some people assume that it's just white men who aren't attracted to Black women, but ALL Black women are supposed to want white men? That offends me.
































Are Black Women Attracted to White Men?